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rephrasing of gloss and description of <msName> #2434

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sabineseifert opened this issue May 9, 2023 · 5 comments · May be fixed by #2645
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rephrasing of gloss and description of <msName> #2434

sabineseifert opened this issue May 9, 2023 · 5 comments · May be fixed by #2645

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@sabineseifert
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The gloss and description of <msName> seem kind of arbitrary:
Gloss: "alternative name" - alternative to what? And where is that information captured?
Description: "contains any form of unstructured alternative name used for a manuscript or other object, such as an ‘ocellus nominum’, or nickname." - again, alternative name to what?
https://tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-msName.html

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@jamescummings had a suggestion for rephrasing at the F2F in Guelph?!

@sabineseifert sabineseifert self-assigned this May 9, 2023
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Hi, I would remove the 'ocellus nominum' since most people won't know what that means and MS cataloguers who do would use this element anyway when appropriate.

I'd say something like:

contains an proper noun or noun phrase used for a manuscript, or other object, instead of any formal identification number or classmark.

That brings it more in line with objectName and other name elements but with the specification that it isn't the structured forms like classmark which should go in idno.

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I second James' interpretation and proposal, as in my understanding, msName is alternative respectively additional to idno.

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sydb commented Sep 5, 2023

The OP is clearly correct, in that the <gloss> of the <msName> is egregiously wrong; it should almost certainly be “manuscript name”. (The gloss simply expands the name of the element, which is by definition an arbitrary identifier, into words in a particular natural language. It does not define the element semantics.)

@sabineseifert sabineseifert added this to the Guidelines 4.9.0 milestone Jun 26, 2024
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Council subgroup at F2F 2024 decides update the status of this ticket to "Go" and to implement the following changes:

  • Correct the <gloss> of <msName> to "manuscript name" according to @sydb's guidance.

  • Update the <desc> of <msName> with the description provided by @jamescummings

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