Discuss bundling PIE with PHP

[asgrim]

A future discussion we should have is whether we want to bundle PIE with PHP, and how to do that (e.g. how to keep it up to date? should we just bundle a script to download & install the latest PIE version, instead of bundling a specific PHAR? etc.etc. what are the potential impacts? should we remove PECL at the same time, or keep both initially (bear in mind #17 issue)? any other concerns/gotchas/etc.? what is the process, do we need an RFC, for example?

[pronskiy]

When do you think it could potentially be bundled? Let’s say it’s in the Beta stage—it could be bundled along with PECL to allow for a transition period. I’m guessing 8.4 is off the table? Could it be part of a minor update 8.4.x? If not, then it's 8.4++?

[derickr]

I think we should dicuss this for inclusion in php 8.5, but early in the cycle. I also believe we should replace PECL with pie, and not have them both bundled at the same time.

[asgrim]

A discussion point about bundling PIE with PHP: we should perhaps only bundle an installer script of some kind, rather than the PHAR itself; otherwise PIE release become tied to PHP and cannot move as fast (and if a bug/security issue is found in PIE, it would need a release of PHP to fix it).