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+++ b/README.md
@@ -12,6 +12,8 @@ to date.
 Developers and even testers are strongly encouraged to add detail about
 what they need for their environment.
 
+See the developer_notes.txt file for more information.
+
 ## Security warning
 
 Do not use the root or an Administrator account for developing or running
@@ -317,9 +319,9 @@ manage it.
 
 * Code Spell Checker from Street Side Software
 * markdownlint from David Anson
-* Python from Microsoft
+* Python from Microsoft (Brings in some more extensions)
 * ShellCheck from Timon Wong
-
+* YAML from Red Hat
 
 [1]: https://github.com/ham-radio-software/lzhuf
 [2]: https://github.com/ham-radio-software/D-Rats/wiki/010.020-Installation-of-D%E2%80%90Rats-on-Microsoft-Windows-with-MobaXterm
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+Raw notes for to help with environments, eventually to be organized and put
+into a Wiki.
+
+When adding to this, please use your call sign indicates content that is
+unique to your development.
+
+Development on Windows is new to wb8tyw as is these new GUI tool kits.
+
+The idea for this file is to collect information as it happens so that it
+does not get lost later.   And in a home environment, we don't usually have
+freshly installed test test systems to verify installation issues.
+
+Ideally we want an single package with an ".msi" file for a Microsoft
+Windows environment.   We know from the lzhuf project how to create
+Microsoft packages and also debian packages, and we can create them with
+GitHub Actions.
+
+Cygwin and MobaXterm allow access to your Microsoft Windows storage by using
+the path /cygwin.
+
+This allows you to both use bash shell to for git operations and you can
+also test the many of the linux code paths.
+
+Msys2 and using a WSL have a similar way to get to the Microsoft Windows
+volumes.   Todo is to document these alternate methods.
+
+In the case for wb8tyw, it is /cygwin/w/work/d-rats/drats2 .
+This is a linux system that shares the work directory to all the test
+and development systems over both CIFS/SMB and NFS, so wb8tyw use that linux
+system for git and docker operations.
+
+A developer will start with creating a clone of the ham-radio-software drats2
+repository in their local repository.
+
+You will need to get your ~/.gitconfig file setup at a minimum of your name,
+email, and your preferred editor.   Some versions of git will issue noisy
+messages if you do not specify the [push] section.
+
+cat ~/.gitconfig
+[user]
+        email = wb8tyw@example.net
+        name = John E. Malmberg
+[core]
+        editor = vim
+[push]
+        default=simple
+
+
+The forked repository configuration needs an upstream entry
+
+cat .git/config
+[core]
+        repositoryformatversion = 0
+        filemode = true
+        bare = false
+        logallrefupdates = true
+[remote "origin"]
+        url = git@github.com:wb8tyw/drats2.git
+        fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
+[remote "upstream"]
+        url = git@github.com:ham-radio-software/drats2.git
+        fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/upstream/*
+[branch "main"]
+        remote = origin
+        merge = refs/heads/main
+
+Now getting up to date with current branch.
+
+
+You want to start and keep your fork up to date with the upstream.
+
+Updating your main branch.
+
+git checkout main
+
+git fetch upstream
+From github.com:ham-radio-software/drats2
+ * [new branch]      main       -> upstream/main
+
+git reset --hard upstream/main
+HEAD is now at a69c2e6 Setup initial project structure (#1)
+
+Now if you have a development branch in progress that has not yet been
+submitted as a Pull Request (PR), you can bring it up to date with a rebase
+
+git branch
+* main
+  wb8tyw_initial_template
+
+git checkout wb8tyw_initial_template
+Your branch is up to date with 'origin/wb8tyw_initial_template'.
+
+git rebase -i main
+This will normally bring up an edit window window that will allow you to
+select which commits from the updated main you want to pull into your branch.
+It may point out conflicts that are blocking the merge, and then you will
+need to edit the files.  The files in conflict will have both the original
+and the new main versions in them.   Resolve the conflicts, and do a normal
+commit.   Then follow the rebase prompts to continue the rebase.
+
+Then if you need to update your existing online git repository branch:
+
+git push -f
+
+Instead of:
+
+git push -u origin <branch_name>
+
+As is normally done.
+
+If you have a pull request in progress, then then what you need to is a
+merge of the main branch into the test branch.
+
+git merge --ff-only main
+
+There is a lot of information on Internet about git, but in the worst case
+you can just cancel the PR and start a new PR keeping track of what changes
+you had in progress.
+
+Once the PR is merged, normally the branch in your online git repository
+is deleted.
+
+You need to delete your local branch.
+
+git checkout main
+git branch -d <your_local_branch>
+
+
+Now we want to have an install script for installing Python and the
+dependencies for each type of install.
+
+install_windows.ps1 is for installing what is needed to run d-rats on windows.
+This script should not be run from an command window with Administrative
+privileges.  It may pop up UAC windows for some operations.
+
+Trying to run the script from a power shell window fails as running scripts
+is disabled by policy.
+
+PS C:\Users\malmberg> w:\work\d-rats\drats2\install_windows.ps1
+w:\work\d-rats\drats2\install_windows.ps1 :
+ File W:\work\d-rats\drats2\install_windows.ps1 cannot be loaded because
+running scripts is disabled on this system. For more information,
+ see about_Execution_Policies at
+https:/go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=135170.
+At line:1 char:1
++ w:\work\d-rats\drats2\install_windows.ps1
++ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+    + CategoryInfo          : SecurityError: (:) [], PSSecurityException
+    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : UnauthorizedAccess
+
+Using the Visual Studio Code Microsoft Powershell plugin execution window, it
+was able to run the script, but has prompts.
+
+PS W:\work\d-rats\drats2> .\install_windows.ps1
+The `msstore` source requires that you view the following agreements before
+ using.
+Terms of Transaction: https://aka.ms/microsoft-store-terms-of-transaction
+The source requires the current machine's 2-letter geographic region to be
+ sent to the backend service to function properly (ex. "US").
+
+Do you agree to all the source agreements terms?
+[Y] Yes  [N] No: Y
+Found Python 3.11 [9NRWMJP3717K] Version Unknown
+This package is provided through Microsoft Store. winget may need to acquire
+ the package from Microsoft Store on behalf of the current user.
+Agreements for Python 3.11 [9NRWMJP3717K] Version Unknown
+Version: Unknown
+Publisher: Python Software Foundation
+Publisher Url: https://www.python.org/
+Publisher Support Url: https://www.python.org/doc/
+License: https://docs.python.org/3.11/license.html
+Privacy Url: https://www.python.org/privacy
+Copyright: (c) Python Software Foundation
+Agreements:
+  Category: Developer tools
+  Pricing: Free
+  Free Trial: No
+  Terms of Transaction: https://aka.ms/microsoft-store-terms-of-transaction
+  Seizure Warning: https://aka.ms/microsoft-store-seizure-warning
+  Store License Terms: https://aka.ms/microsoft-store-license
+
+The publisher requires that you view the above information and accept the
+ agreements before installing.
+Do you agree to the terms?
+[Y] Yes  [N] No: Y
+Starting package install...
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+ kivy-deps.angle, filetype, urllib3, six, pypiwin32, pygments, numpy, idna,
+ docutils, charset-normalizer, certifi, wxPython, requests, Kivy-Garden, kivy
+  WARNING: The script filetype.exe is installed in
+   'C:\Users\malmberg\AppData\Local\Packages\
+   PythonSoftwareFoundation.Python.3.11_qbz5n2kfra8p0\LocalCache\
+   local-packages\Python311\Scripts' which is not on PATH.
+  Consider adding this directory to PATH or, if you prefer to suppress
+   this warning, use --no-warn-script-location.
+  WARNING: The script pygmentize.exe is installed in
+   'C:\Users\malmberg\AppData\Local\Packages\
+   PythonSoftwareFoundation.Python.3.11_qbz5n2kfra8p0\LocalCache\
+   local-packages\Python311\Scripts' which is not on PATH.
+  Consider adding this directory to PATH or, if you prefer to suppress
+   this warning, use --no-warn-script-location.
+  WARNING: The scripts f2py.exe and numpy-config.exe are installed in
+   'C:\Users\malmberg\AppData\Local\Packages\
+   PythonSoftwareFoundation.Python.3.11_qbz5n2kfra8p0\LocalCache\
+   local-packages\Python311\Scripts' which is not on PATH.
+  Consider adding this directory to PATH or, if you prefer to suppress
+   this warning, use --no-warn-script-location.
+  WARNING: The scripts docutils.exe, rst2html.exe, rst2html4.exe,
+   rst2html5.exe, rst2latex.exe, rst2man.exe, rst2odt.exe, rst2pseudoxml.exe,
+   rst2s5.exe, rst2xetex.exe and rst2xml.exe are installed in
+    'C:\Users\malmberg\AppData\Local\Packages\
+    PythonSoftwareFoundation.Python.3.11_qbz5n2kfra8p0\LocalCache\
+    local-packages\Python311\Scripts' which is not on PATH.
+  Consider adding this directory to PATH or, if you prefer to suppress
+   this warning, use --no-warn-script-location.
+  WARNING: The script normalizer.exe is installed in
+   'C:\Users\malmberg\AppData\Local\Packages\
+   PythonSoftwareFoundation.Python.3.11_qbz5n2kfra8p0\LocalCache\
+   local-packages\Python311\Scripts' which is not on PATH.
+  Consider adding this directory to PATH or, if you prefer to suppress
+   this warning, use --no-warn-script-location.
+  WARNING: The scripts helpviewer.exe, img2png.exe, img2py.exe, img2xpm.exe,
+   pycrust.exe, pyshell.exe, pyslices.exe, pyslicesshell.exe, pywxrc.exe,
+   wxdemo.exe, wxdocs.exe and wxget.exe are installed in
+    'C:\Users\malmberg\AppData\Local\Packages\
+    PythonSoftwareFoundation.Python.3.11_qbz5n2kfra8p0\LocalCache\
+    local-packages\Python311\Scripts' which is not on PATH.
+  Consider adding this directory to PATH or, if you prefer to suppress
+   this warning, use --no-warn-script-location.
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+ charset-normalizer-3.4.1 docutils-0.21.2 filetype-1.2.0 idna-3.10
+ kivy-2.3.1 kivy-deps.angle-0.4.0 kivy-deps.glew-0.3.1
+ kivy-deps.sdl2-0.8.0 numpy-2.2.1 pygments-2.19.1 pypiwin32-223 pywin32-308
+ requests-2.32.3 six-1.17.0 urllib3-2.3.0 wxPython-4.2.2
+
+[notice] A new release of pip is available: 24.0 -> 24.3.1
+[notice] To update, run:
+ C:\Users\malmberg\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps\
+ PythonSoftwareFoundation.Python.3.11_qbz5n2kfra8p0\python.exe -m pip
+  install --upgrade pip
+
+It was supposed to install the latest version of Python from the Microsoft
+store which was Python 3.13 instead of the Python 3.11 it did install.
+
+We could specify the python version in the script, but that becomes a
+maintenance problem when it gets missed when that version is obsolete.
+python 3.11 should be good enough for our testing though.
+
+
+
+install_mobaxterm.sh is for installing what is needed to run d-rats on
+MobaXterm.
+
+install_linux.sh is for installing what is needed to run d-rats on various
+linux platforms.
+
+We will have different requirements.txt files for pip based on which
+platform, etcetera.  Various security tools look for requirements.txt to
+flag if an known unsafe package is listed, so we will put each
+requirements.txt in their own directory instead making requirements_xxx.txt
+files.
+
+Visual Studio Code notes:
+On detecting a ps1 file, VSC will prompt to install the "Powershell" from
+Microsoft extension.   When installed, the plugin will ask you to upgrade to
+most current Powershell.   Wb8tyw declined the upgrade to be more compatible
+with end users.
+
+Testing the scripts:
+
+Test system1:  Windows-11
+  Currently using as a development system.
+  Testing for using Windows Python.
+  Testing using MobaXterm Free edition.
+
+Test system2:  Windows-10
+  Testing Msys2 using VNC from test system1
+
+Test system3:  Raspbian (Debian Bookworm)
+  Testing via X11/SSH tunneling from test system1
+
+Test system4:  Fedora/41
+  Testing via X11/SSH tunneling from test system1
+
+Test system5:  Ubuntu 22.04
+  Testing via X11/SSH tunneling from test system1
+
+No audio available when testing remote.
+
+The working directory was set to the git checkout directory.
+
+Native Windows used Visual Studio code to run ./install_windows.ps1.
+At this time, only the packages needed for testing the various gui packages
+are being installed.   This seems to work as reported by pip freeze.
+
+Mobaxterm test:
+First problem: the cygwin environment is checking the UID/GID of the served
+file system and determined that it does not have permission.
+
+Issued in Mobaxterm
+mkpasswd --local > /etc/passwd
+mkgroup --local > /etc/group
+
+For wb8tyw the remote uid/gid: 4294967295 4294967295
+
+For the /etc/group wb8tyw added a record to copy the group "USER"
+
+Users:S-1-5-32-545:545:
+Users2:S-1-5-32-545:4294967295:
+
+A similar edit was made to the /edt/passwd file, the first field is the
+posix username, and the 3rd and 4th are uid and gid values.   Everything
+else needs to be the same.
+
+malmberg:*:197611:197121:U-direwolf\malmberg,...
+
+malmberg2:*:4294967295:4294967295:U-direwolf\malmberg,...
+
+But that only fixed the names in the ls -l display, it did not fix the
+permissions issue.  So this appears to only be needed for cosmetic reasons,
+so probably was not needed at all.
+
+The permissions on new files in Visual Studio code defaults to 0744 and
+since Cygwin/MobaXterm still sees this as a different user and group, it
+does not work.   Changing the permissions in the MobaXterm session do not
+work as it does not have permissions.
+
+The changes need to be made on the SMB/CIFS/NFS server host.
+chmod 0755 *.sh
+
+That got the linux_install.sh script working and makes sure that when
+these files get committed to git they will have the correct permissions.
+
+The kivy package did not install on cygwin/MobaXterm no matter what I
+tried.
+
+For some tests, On some systems you have to use python3 <program_name> to
+run the test program.
+These are all minimal programs, most just putting up a window that exits
+when it is closed.
+
+Results of hello_world_gtk.py test:
+   Native Windows: Detects no GTK available
+   MSYS2: GTK4 pauses and generates floods of what looks like useless
+          diagnostic dumps.
+          Now detects MSYS2 and falls back to GTK3
+   MobaXterm: GTK4 demonstration works with an annoying diagnostic.
+          (hello_world_gtk.py:3325): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **:
+           g_dbus_proxy_new_sync: assertion
+          'G_IS_DBUS_CONNECTION (connection)' failed
+   Ubuntu 22.04: GTK4 demonstration works.
+   Raspbian Bookworm: GTK4 demonstration works.
+   Fedora 41: GTK4 demonstration works with annoying diagnostics.
+    libEGL warning: DRI3: Screen seems not DRI3 capable
+    libEGL warning: DRI3: Screen seems not DRI3 capable
+    MESA-INTEL: warning: ../src/intel/vulkan/anv_formats.c:763:
+     FINISHME: support YUV colorspace with DRM format modifiers
+    MESA-INTEL: warning: ../src/intel/vulkan/anv_formats.c:794:
+     FINISHME: support more multi-planar formats with DRM modifiers
+    vulkan: No DRI3 support detected - required for presentation
+    Note: you can probably enable DRI3 in your Xorg config
+
+Result of Kivy test:
+    Native Windows: Kivy demonstration worked with a bunch of diagnostics.
+    MSYS2: Detected Kivy not available.
+    MobaXterm: Detected Kivy not available.
+    Ubuntu 22.04: Kivy demonstration worked with a bunch of diagnostics.
+    Raspbian Bookworm: Kivy demonstration worked with a bunch of diagnostics.
+    Fedora 41: Needed PYTHONPATH, Kivy demonstration worked with a bunch
+      of diagnostics.
+
+Results of Tkinter tests: Success on all of the above systems.
+
+Results of the WxPython tests:  Success on all the above systems, with a
+a diagnostic on MobaXterm run.   A web search indicates that diagnostic can be
+fixed with a series of commands.
diff --git a/drats_gtk/hello_world_gtk.py b/drats_gtk/hello_world_gtk.py
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..c373974
--- /dev/null
+++ b/drats_gtk/hello_world_gtk.py
@@ -0,0 +1,39 @@
+#!/bin/python
+
+import logging
+import os
+from sys import exit
+
+logger = logging.getLogger(__name__)
+
+default_gtk = '4.0'
+if 'MSYSTEM' in os.environ:
+    default_gtk = '3.0'
+try:
+    import gi                          # type: ignore
+    try:
+        gi.require_version('Gtk', default_gtk)
+    except ValueError:
+        logger.info(f'GTK {default_gtk} is not available!')
+        try:
+            gi.require_version('Gtk', '3.0')
+        except ValueError:
+            logger.error('GTK 3 does not appear to be installed!')
+            exit(1)
+    from gi.repository import Gtk      # type: ignore
+except ModuleNotFoundError:
+    logger.error('GTK does not appear to be installed!')
+    exit(1)
+
+def on_activate(app):
+    win = Gtk.ApplicationWindow(application=app)
+    win.present()
+
+def main():
+    app = Gtk.Application()
+    app.connect('activate', on_activate)
+
+    app.run(None)
+
+if __name__ == "__main__":
+    main()
diff --git a/drats_kivy/hello_world_kivy.py b/drats_kivy/hello_world_kivy.py
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..ba3aba2
--- /dev/null
+++ b/drats_kivy/hello_world_kivy.py
@@ -0,0 +1,30 @@
+#!/bin/python
+
+import logging
+# import os
+from sys import exit
+
+logger = logging.getLogger(__name__)
+
+try:
+    from kivy.app import App
+    from kivy.uix.widget import Widget
+except ModuleNotFoundError:
+    logger.error('Kivy does not appear to be installed!')
+    exit(1)
+
+
+class HelloWorld(Widget):
+    pass
+
+
+class HelloApp(App):
+    def build(self):
+        return HelloWorld()
+
+
+def main():
+    HelloApp().run()
+
+if __name__ == "__main__":
+    main()
diff --git a/drats_tk/hello_world_tk.py b/drats_tk/hello_world_tk.py
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..c736d79
--- /dev/null
+++ b/drats_tk/hello_world_tk.py
@@ -0,0 +1,10 @@
+#!/bin/python
+
+import tkinter as tk
+
+def main():
+    window = tk.Tk()
+    window.mainloop()
+
+if __name__ == "__main__":
+    main()
diff --git a/drats_wx/hello_world_wx.py b/drats_wx/hello_world_wx.py
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..62bc318
--- /dev/null
+++ b/drats_wx/hello_world_wx.py
@@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
+#!/bin/python
+
+import wx
+
+def main():
+    app = wx.App()
+    frame = wx.Frame(parent=None, title='Hello World')
+    frame.Show()
+    app.MainLoop()
+
+if __name__ == "__main__":
+    main()
diff --git a/fedora/requirements.txt b/fedora/requirements.txt
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..378d855
--- /dev/null
+++ b/fedora/requirements.txt
@@ -0,0 +1,2 @@
+pip
+kivy
diff --git a/install_debian.sh b/install_debian.sh
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..38b7b6d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/install_debian.sh
@@ -0,0 +1,50 @@
+#!/bin/bash
+
+set -uex
+
+DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
+export DEBIAN_FRONTEND
+
+sudo -S -E apt-get --assume-yes update
+sudo -S -E apt-get --assume-yes install \
+    aspell aspell-de aspell-en aspell-es aspell-it aspell-nl \
+    ca-certificates \
+    gedit \
+    libcairo2-dev \
+    libxml2-utils \
+    libgirepository1.0-dev \
+    python3 \
+    python3-feedparser \
+    python3-flask \
+    python3-geopy \
+    python3-gevent \
+    python3-gi \
+    python3-gi-cairo \
+    python3-greenlet \
+    python3-kivy \
+    python3-lxml \
+    python3-pil \
+    python3-pyaudio \
+    python3-pycountry \
+    python3-pydub \
+    python3-serial \
+    python3-tk \
+    wxpython-tools
+
+if [[ "${1:-}" == dev* ]]; then
+  sudo -S -E apt-get --assume-yes install \
+    bandit \
+    codespell \
+    gcc \
+    make \
+    pkg-config \
+    pylint \
+    python3-dev \
+    python3-ipykernel \
+    python3-pip \
+    python3-simplejson \
+    python3-sphinx \
+    python3_venv \
+    shellcheck \
+    yamllint
+fi
diff --git a/install_fedora.sh b/install_fedora.sh
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..e05e060
--- /dev/null
+++ b/install_fedora.sh
@@ -0,0 +1,65 @@
+#!/bin/bash
+
+set -uex
+
+my_dir="$(cd -- "$(dirname -- "${BASH_SOURCE[0]}")" &> /dev/null && pwd)"
+
+sudo dnf -y install \
+    aspell aspell-de aspell-en aspell-es aspell-it aspell-nl \
+    ca-certificates \
+    gedit \
+    libxml2 \
+    python3 \
+    python3-cairo \
+    python3-feedparser \
+    python3-flask \
+    python3-geopy \
+    python3-gevent \
+    python3-gobject \
+    python3-greenlet \
+    python3-libxml2 \
+    python3-pillow \
+    python3-pyaudio \
+    python3-pycountry \
+    python3-pyserial \
+    python3-wxpython4
+
+pypi_dir=~/drats_support/local/lib/pypi
+mkdir -p "$pypi_dir"
+
+if [ -e "$pypi_dir/bin/pip3" ]; then
+  echo 'Pip already updated'
+else
+  # Pip always complains if a newer version is available until
+  # you upgrade to it.
+  echo "upgrading pip, this will warn that pip needs upgrading"
+  pip3 install --upgrade --target="$pypi_dir" pip
+  ls "$pypi_dir/bin"
+fi
+# Need to set PYTHONPATH to use the PyPi packages
+PYTHONPATH="$pypi_dir"
+export PYTHONPATH
+ls "$pypi_dir/bin"
+# If we do not include pip here, for some reason pip removes the
+# binary for it.  Why???
+"$pypi_dir/bin"/pip3 install --upgrade --target="$pypi_dir" \
+  -r "${my_dir}/fedora/requirements.txt"
+
+if [[ "${1:-}" == dev* ]]; then
+  sudo dnf -y install \
+    bandit \
+    codespell \
+    gcc \
+    make \
+    pkgconf-pkg-config \
+    pylint \
+    python3-devel \
+    python3-ipykernel \
+    python3-pip \
+    python3-simplejson \
+    python3-sphinx \
+    python3-tkinter \
+    python3-virtualenv \
+    shellcheck \
+    yamllint
+fi
diff --git a/install_linux.sh b/install_linux.sh
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..8362786
--- /dev/null
+++ b/install_linux.sh
@@ -0,0 +1,52 @@
+#!/bin/bash
+
+set -uex
+
+my_dir="$(cd -- "$(dirname -- "${BASH_SOURCE[0]}")" &> /dev/null && pwd)"
+
+: "${NAME:=unknown}"
+: "${ID:=unknown}"
+: "${ID_LIKE:=unknown}"
+if [ -e /etc/os-release ]; then
+    # shellcheck disable=SC1091
+    source /etc/os-release
+else
+    # Cygwin / MobaXterm does not have /etc/os-release file
+    if [ -e /cygdrive ]; then
+        # Found for Cygwin / MobaXterm
+        if [ -e /bin/MobaBox.exe ]; then
+            # Found MobaXterm
+            ID="mobaxterm"
+            ID_LIKE="cygwin"
+        else
+            ID="cygwin"
+        fi
+    fi
+fi
+# Debian ID="debian" no ID_LIKE present has wxpython-tools, python3-kivy
+# Ubuntu ID="ubuntu" ID_LIKE=debian     has wxpython-tools, python3-kivy
+#
+# Fedora ID="fedora" no ID_LIKE python3-wxpython4 no kivy package
+# epel for el-8 and el-9 also have the python3-wxpython4
+# No current cygwin users, no scripted package install known.
+# msys2 ID="msys2" has mingw-w64-x86_64-wxPython
+# mobaxterm has python3.9 and python39-wx package, no gtk4, no kivy
+case "$ID" in
+    mobaxterm)
+        "${my_dir}/install_mobaxterm.sh"
+        ;;
+    msys2)
+        "${my_dir}/install_msys2.sh"
+        ;;
+    fedora)
+        # Rocky/Alma is probably similar to this
+        "${my_dir}/install_fedora.sh"
+        ;;
+    debian|ubuntu)
+        "${my_dir}/install_debian.sh"
+        ;;
+    *)
+        echo "$ID is not yet supported by this script."
+        exit 1
+        ;;
+esac
diff --git a/install_mobaxterm.sh b/install_mobaxterm.sh
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..7f38317
--- /dev/null
+++ b/install_mobaxterm.sh
@@ -0,0 +1,60 @@
+#!/bin/bash
+
+set -uex
+
+my_dir="$(cd -- "$(dirname -- "${BASH_SOURCE[0]}")" &> /dev/null && pwd)"
+
+# MobaXterm has some of these packages built in.
+# curl git wget
+
+# MobaXterm uses aliases which are needed in a setup script
+apt_get='/bin/MobaBox.exe apt-get'
+mkdir='/usr/bin/busybox mkdir'
+
+# This is needed to prevent pop ups that pause the install
+DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
+export DEBIAN_FRONTEND
+# Update to current and add packages
+# apt-get --assume-yes update
+$apt_get -y upgrade
+$apt_get -y install \
+  aspell aspell-de aspell-en aspell-es aspell-it \
+  ffmpeg \
+  gedit gettext gettext-devel git gcc-core \
+  libgtk3_0 libjpeg-devel libportaudio-devel \
+  python3 python3-pip python3-tkinter \
+  zlib-devel
+
+python_version_raw="$(python --version)"
+python_version="${python_version_raw#* }"
+python_major_minimum="${python_version%.*}"
+python_major="${python_major_minimum%.*}"
+python_minor="${python_major_minimum#*.}"
+pyver="python${python_major}${python_minor}"
+
+$apt_get -y install \
+  "${pyver}-devel" "${pyver}-gi" "${pyver}-lxml" \
+  "${pyver}-sphinx" "${pyver}-wx" \
+
+pypi_dir=/usr/local/lib/pypi
+$mkdir -p "$pypi_dir"
+
+if [ -e "$pypi_dir/bin/pip3" ]; then
+  echo 'Pip already updated'
+else
+  # Pip always complains if a newer version is available until
+  # you upgrade to it.
+  echo "upgrading pip, this will warn that pip needs upgrading"
+  pip3 install --upgrade --target="$pypi_dir" pip
+  ls "$pypi_dir/bin"
+fi
+# Need to set PYTHONPATH to use the PyPi packages
+PYTHONPATH="$pypi_dir"
+export PYTHONPATH
+ls "$pypi_dir/bin"
+# If we do not include pip here, for some reason pip removes the
+# binary for it.  Why???
+"$pypi_dir/bin"/pip3 install --upgrade --target="$pypi_dir" \
+  -r "${my_dir}/mobaxterm/requirements.txt"
+#
+# kivy does not apparently install on cygwin/MobaXterm
diff --git a/install_msys2.sh b/install_msys2.sh
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..015004a
--- /dev/null
+++ b/install_msys2.sh
@@ -0,0 +1,34 @@
+#!/usr/bin/bash
+
+set -uex
+
+mingw='mingw-w64-x86_64'
+
+pacman -Syu --noconfirm \
+    "${mingw}-ca-certificates" \
+    "${mingw}-python" \
+    "${mingw}-gtk4" \
+    "${mingw}-gettext" \
+    "${mingw}-python3-gobject" \
+    "${mingw}-aspell" "${mingw}-aspell-en" \
+    "${mingw}-python-pywin32" \
+    "${mingw}-python-lxml" \
+    "${mingw}-python-pyserial" \
+    "${mingw}-python-pillow" \
+    "${mingw}-python-pycountry" \
+    "${mingw}-wxPython"
+
+if [[ "${1:-}" == dev* ]]; then
+  # packaging
+  # no aspell-it dictionary at this time.
+  pacman -Syu --noconfirm \
+    "${mingw}-gcc" \
+    "${mingw}-make" \
+    "${mingw}-python-codespell" \
+    "${mingw}-python-pylint" \
+    "${mingw}-python-setuptools" \
+    "${mingw}-python-virtualenv"
+
+    # This should not be needed, but is for now.
+    ln -sf /mingw64/bin/mingw32-make.exe /mingw64/bin/make.exe
+fi
diff --git a/install_windows.ps1 b/install_windows.ps1
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..cbdfa74
--- /dev/null
+++ b/install_windows.ps1
@@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
+<# install_windows.ps2
+This is a script to install what is needed to run python with an command
+line option to in the future install more packages for development.
+#>
+
+param(
+    [bool]
+    $development = 1
+)
+
+# Get the directory of the script so it can find the files
+$scriptDirectory = Split-Path -Parent $MyInvocation.MyCommand.Path
+
+# This gets the current python if a python is not installed.
+winget install python
+
+# Install required packages for windows
+pip install -U -r $scriptDirectory\windows\requirements.txt `
+    --no-warn-script-location
diff --git a/mobaxterm/requirements.txt b/mobaxterm/requirements.txt
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..9a94df6
--- /dev/null
+++ b/mobaxterm/requirements.txt
@@ -0,0 +1,8 @@
+feedparser
+geopy
+pip
+Pillow
+pyaudio
+pydub
+pycountry
+pyserial
diff --git a/pylintrc b/pylintrc
index 5e26380..106cc73 100755
--- a/pylintrc
+++ b/pylintrc
@@ -2,11 +2,11 @@
 # We are getting flooded with these and they are very low on
 # the priority of things to fix.
 # some of these are not detected by older pylint versions in use.
-disable = consider-using-f-string,
-  consider-using-dict-items,
-  consider-iterating-dictionary,
-  consider-using-with,
-  unspecified-encoding
+#disable = consider-using-f-string,
+#  consider-using-dict-items,
+#  consider-iterating-dictionary,
+#  consider-using-with,
+#  unspecified-encoding
 
 
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diff --git a/windows/requirements.txt b/windows/requirements.txt
new file mode 100755
index 0000000..0f762d0
--- /dev/null
+++ b/windows/requirements.txt
@@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
+# common and Tkinter
+pip
+# kivy variant
+kivy
+# wxPython variant
+wxPython
+# GTK not available for native Microsoft Windows