Cyborg Rebalance

[Nox38]

About the PR

Changes the content of each module and the modules gained on roundstart for balance.

Why / Balance

Stations only feature 2-4 cyborg spawn points at round start, and they are otherwise expensive to make and very specialized, so it is fair to assume that they should reliably do their jobs better than an organic. Some cyborgs had overpowered modules and some had underpowered modules, this aims to make them all fun to use and fair.

Technical details

Changed the default starting modules and the content of each module.

Media

Requirements

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Breaking changes

Changelog
🆑 Nox38, ArtisticRoomba

• Tweak: Rebalanced cyborg modules and made more of them starting equipment.
• Add: Added new advanced mining and advanced chemical modules.

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This pull request has conflicts, please resolve those before we can evaluate the pull request.

[Djungelskog2]

I feel like a complete overhaul/rebalance like this would only be appropriate when we get an alternative or better version of round removal recovery (like cloning).

[SlimmSlamm]

I feel like a complete overhaul/rebalance like this would only be appropriate when we get an alternative or better version of round removal recovery (like cloning).

Yeah let's just keep every Cyborg in a dogshit state for the next months or maybe even years for literally no reason. This is a good rebalance and its absolutely needed for every Cyborg chassis except Engineer. Engineer only needs a holofan at this point.

As for the PR itself I don't think removing the RCD from round start is necessary. It isn't as broken as people think because of how slow it recharges.

[Djungelskog2]

I feel like a complete overhaul/rebalance like this would only be appropriate when we get an alternative or better version of round removal recovery (like cloning).

Yeah let's just keep every Cyborg in a dogshit state for the next months or maybe even years for literally no reason. This is a good rebalance and its absolutely needed for every Cyborg chassis except Engineer. Engineer only needs a holofan at this point.

As for the PR itself I don't think removing the RCD from round start is necessary. It isn't as broken as people think because of how slow it recharges.

I was pointing to how borging shouldn't be super glamorized or incentivised, and how expensive they would be to produce. Borging is only as common as it is currently because we lack any other ways to bring people back into the round and ideally it would be reserved as a last resort, where people volunteer for its very niche benefits or as punishment

I think giving every Borg the tools module is a good addition though, shouldn't have been removed in the first place

[Djungelskog2]

I don't mind most of the actual module changes outside of the custodial module, but it's the price changes mainly that I think will be a massive pain. And some of these buffs may need to be reeled back in the future when other RR recovery methods become available (not telling you not to, just an observation). Also give service Borg some love!!!!

[Chubbicous]

I'm not exactly against it since the other changes are good regardless for borgs, but why remove the RCD module? I really don't think it's OP like everyone makes it out to be. You already have to wait a while for it to recharge compared to engineers just buying more matter packs from cargo whenever they want. In SS13 iirc the recharge is based around the cyborg's battery. If you want to nerf it, you could maybe do that instead. Or just make it require matter compressors. Either way it shouldn't be worse than a normal engineer imo.

Great changes otherwise though. Always seemed kind of silly that mediborgs didn't have a defib module, I'm guessing it was an oversight.

I feel like a complete overhaul/rebalance like this would only be appropriate when we get an alternative or better version of round removal recovery (like cloning).

I mean people also enjoy playing borgs roundstart. It would be nice to at least get the bare necessities like a defib module for medborgs.

[ArtisticRoomba]

Construction module: Added plasteel and reinforced glass!

Duplicate intent of #33748

Advanced Tools module: Removed remote signaler.

Any reason why? After reviewing I see why.

[ArtisticRoomba]

Some concerns I had with the distribution of some items, plus some minor YAML things.

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01/03/25 21:13

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01/03/25 21:14

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01/03/25 21:16

[Nox38]

@Djungelskog2 what do you dislike about the custodial module? my aim was to reduce X key spam by spreading the tools throughout two modules instead of jamming all but one of them into the cleaning module.

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01/03/25 21:38

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01/03/25 21:39

[Nox38]

okay finally ready for merging.

[ArtisticRoomba]

you need to update your PR comment and fix your CL, and the sprites need changing

[Nox38]

just waiting on the sprites from Roomba....

[github-actions]

RSI Diff Bot; head commit 799a363 merging into 0707ee5
This PR makes changes to 1 or more RSIs. Here is a summary of all changes:

Resources/Textures/Interface/Actions/actions_borg.rsi

State	Old	New	Status
adv-chem-module			Added
adv-mining-module			Added
chem-module			Added

Resources/Textures/Objects/Specific/Robotics/borgmodule.rsi

State	Old	New	Status
icon-chem			Added
icon-mining-adv			Added

Edit: diff updated after 799a363

[Nox38]

all ready to go.

[ArtisticRoomba]

i'll review later, but you'll want to fix your CL so people are properly attributed in the CL:

🆑 Nox38, Venikt, ArtisticRoomba

[Nox38]

🆑 Nox38, Venikt, ArtisticRoomba

Oh, so thats where you put attributions. Done.

[muburu]

meta.json files should properly attribute their creators as well, scarky0 forgot to attribute themselves in their PR which added the module actions to begin with , so just smack scarky's name in their along with mine, preferably stating who made what.

if i remember correctly the state-laws icon is from TG and so is the select-type one. so just say the module action icons were made by scarky0 and link their PR in the attributions (#32505), put my name in there saying i made the three used in this PR, linking it as well.

also be sure to use my github name rather than my discord one, venikt is not my github username or my in-game one, so list it as it is on here to avoid any confusion (muburu_).

[Nox38]

All suggestions implemented.

[ArtisticRoomba]

Some unaddressed YAML stuff plus nitpicks, otherwise looks all good.